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And it is about time those functions are decoupled from the fallback tuner code, as they have NO relattion whatsoever with a fallback tuner (same for channel and EPG import), which is very confusing for users.
Posted 6 April 2024 - 17:02
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And it is about time those functions are decoupled from the fallback tuner code, as they have NO relattion whatsoever with a fallback tuner (same for channel and EPG import), which is very confusing for users.
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Posted 6 April 2024 - 17:20
Edited by littlesat, 6 April 2024 - 17:23.
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Posted 6 April 2024 - 18:52
That is implementation and legacy. My point is that it SHOULD be decoupled.
Functionally, there is no relation to tuners or tuning. I use remote timer, and import of channels and EPG on all my boxes. None of them use or need any fallback functionality.
If, as a user, I have a need for remote timer functionality (to bring it back on topic), the last place I would look for it is in the tuner menu...
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Posted 6 April 2024 - 19:15
Main reason for still using Partnerbox is the option to use remote timers as default.
Important to us because we use one receiver for recording only, the other three are always free for watching TV or a recorded movie.
If you could implement that "Default remotetimer" option into Fallbacktuner there is no reason to use Partnerbox any more.
My receivers only have a 100Mb/s network adapter so watching a recorded program (NAS) and streaming to record at the same time is not possible.
That's why we don't use the fallback functionality.
Edited by Snoete, 6 April 2024 - 19:15.
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Posted 6 April 2024 - 19:41
Main reason for still using Partnerbox is the option to use remote timers as default.
Important to us because we use one receiver for recording only, the other three are always free for watching TV or a recorded movie.
I do the same, my recording box is in the attic, without a TV attached.
And indeed, if the box has local tuners, local timers will be the default, which I find annoying too (but is also legacy functionality, the idea that remote timers are only relevant for when you use a fallback tuner).
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Posted 6 April 2024 - 20:13
Maybe a good reason to add the "default remotetimer" option to the Fallback option-menu?!
If that is not possible, it's good to have a simple Default remotetimer option as a backup like Partnerbox or the remoteTimer Plugin.
Wich always works for Wife and kids .
Does someone know how to make the Partnerbox Timer-list readable in this beautiful skin?
--> https://forums.openp...84#entry1616321
Partnerbox Timerlist.jpg 67.21KB 2 downloads
Edited by Snoete, 6 April 2024 - 20:14.
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 07:23
Edited by littlesat, 7 April 2024 - 07:38.
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 11:41
OK that would be nice! And putting it somewhere else is in the local timermenu when the Fallback tuner is activated ?
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 11:44
With that option the fallback tuner’s timer is default…. So again no partnerbox needed… so again no need to adapt that screen as the functionality is totally migrated. And the option is there at the fallback tuner (where wanwizard is considering to put it somewhere else)
Not sure what you mean, but the fallback timer is ONLY default if there are no local tuners.
So in my case it is NEVER default, and I always have to remember to change it when I create a new timer. Pretty annoying, so I understand @Snoete.
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 11:48
OK now i understand what you mean, in that case you would need an option in the Fallback optionsmenu to make the Fallback timer default...
Because how many receivers have no tuners?!
Edited by Snoete, 7 April 2024 - 11:49.
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 11:53
It is not about physical tuners, but about enabled tuners. So receivers that only use streams from another box.
It is all related to the original narrow scope of the reason a fallback tuner was implemented. The scope has widened, the code needs to be adapted, and remote timer, channels and EPG needs to be decoupled from the streaming functionality.
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 12:12
At the moment we already have a choice in the Timermenu for a standard local timer, OR a optional remote timer when the Fallbacktuner is enabled.
U can't make an option to change that and setting the remote timer as default, so without adapting the code for remote timer, channels and EPG?
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 12:34
So adding an option in the Fallback options menu to make the Fallback timer default instead of the local timer.
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 12:46
No,
At least not here. In the timer screen, the default for "Fallback Timer" is "No" (or red in your case). The default only changes if I disable all tuners in the box.
It is quite annoying, as it sometimes goes wrong, and most of my boxes don't have the network bandwidth to record, so all those local timers will fail.
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 12:54
Sounds we need to add an option for the fallback tuner in case we have an active tuner in a client box. Makes a big sense!!! Please send me an reminder when I do not implement it somewhere next week.
and maybe split this out of this tread as it is not related to this skin.
Regarding the wrong skinning it could be that oe-a uses a modified version from partnerbox… and then it is not easy to adjust.
Edited by littlesat, 7 April 2024 - 12:58.
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 12:59
And we need to remove remote timer, import epg and import channels from the fallback tuner screen, it doesn't belong there.
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 12:59
That's exactly what I meant.
Thank you littlesat and WanWizard!
Edited by Snoete, 7 April 2024 - 12:59.
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 13:05
To move it to a different place is something I do not agree as it is somehow related and also in the way the code is made now. But I think we need to discuss it offline. I also think this is part for the complete menu structure. There are multiple points where we can add more logics… then I would prefer to see a complete new menu mapping first before implement something. Please note that behind all the options in fallback tuner there is code behind the configs… also for the fallback timer and it are no straight forward configs. So there are some dependencies
Edited by littlesat, 7 April 2024 - 13:07.
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Posted 7 April 2024 - 13:15
Changing the itemHeight to 120 in skin_plugins.xml did the trick.
</screen> <screen name="RemoteTimer" position="fill" flags="wfNoBorder" backgroundColor="transparent"> <panel name="Screen_1_1" /> <widget name="timerlist" position="135,160" size="1650,6*90" scrollbarMode="showNever" itemHeight="120" iconMargin="30" rowSplit="45" setEventNameFont="Regular;32" setServiceNameFont="Regular;28" setFont="Regular;28" satPosLeft="250" sidesMargin="20" /> <widget addon="Pager" connection="timerlist" position="145,915" size="1630,25" transparent="1" backgroundColor="background" /> <eLabel position="135,720" size="1650,2" backgroundColor="background5" zPosition="-7" /> <widget name="text" position="145,730" size="1620,150" backgroundColor="background" font="Regular;30" halign="center" valign="center"/> </screen>
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