Solved ,
Thanks to all.
I did this:
somewhere in settings : select SLOT 1 , ITV CAM SLOT ONE display .
select CAID`S 602
select in sofcams page or screen ... now the CC cam ,this downloading from plug ins before or installing the open pli last version 8,1 with the internet cable connected : new version or software.
NOT THE OLD SOFCAM : OSCAM ,Again putting now the sofcam : CCCAM , I tried all strange sofcams names ,only this one works in ziggo.
put the ziggo card in the slot 1 from the slot 2 , it was inside the ci+ module QUANTIS
RESET the sofcam in the sofcam page is down one line.in sofcam screen.
THE MAGIC CAME I Saw all the channels I HD and SD : perfect .
Only problem the channels where without son or audio.
after many hours by chance I disconnect the QUANTIS MODULE That was still without card connected in the 2 slot and the music came to all channels the audio , radio channels everything work in the cable system
the satellite still waiting I need to cut one tree that is in front the satellite.
Do not put a the same time the card and the module that gets very hot this module disconnect the audio in some way.
The VUSOLO is more expensive but is better comparing with this ZGEMMA .
again thanks to all for putting in the good way.