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[Gringosat]

Hi all,
I own a Zgemma H5 and a Stab HH100 rotor using USALS protocol with an Unicable switch which are correctly set and working.

Well, if I go to Motor configuration and select GotoX option the dish is moving correctly and after the necessary time for rotation shown me the signal level.
But, if I'm watching a channel on a sat frequency orbit (ie. 13°E) and wanna move to a channel in a different sat frequency orbit (ie. 19,2°E) I receive the message "No signal".
I can see the picture of dish position with a countdown in the screen but when finish nothing is display
Trying to change to channels on the same transponder orbit has same result, no signal.
The only way to watch the channel is using the GotoX feature (in fact the signal level is coming up in 1-2 seconds!).
I've already tried to use the Autofocus and Calibrate options to align the dish rotor and after run the Calculate function to correct all memory sat positions.

Here it's the settings file:

config.misc.lastrotorposition=192
config.misc.showrotorposition=yes
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.65.latitude=xxxxxx
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.65.lof=unicable
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.65.longitude=xxxxxx
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.65.powerMeasurement=false
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.65.scrList=1
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.65.tuningstepsize=0.100
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.65.turningspeedH=1.8
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.65.turningspeedV=1.2
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.65.unicableManufacturer=Inverto
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.65.unicableProduct=IDLB-QUDL42-UNI2L-1PP
config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.3601.lnb=65
config.Nims.0.advanced.sats=3601
config.Nims.0.configMode=advanced
config.Nims.0.diseqcA=3601
config.Nims.0.diseqcB=3601
config.Nims.0.diseqcC=3601
config.Nims.0.diseqcD=3601
config.Nims.0.diseqcMode=single
config.Nims.0.latitude=xxxxxx
config.Nims.0.longitude=xxxxxx
config.Nims.0.powerMeasurement=false
config.Nims.0.tuningstepsize=0.100
config.Nims.0.turningspeedH=1.8
config.Nims.0.turningspeedV=1.2
config.unicable.unicableManufacturer=Inverto
config.unicable.unicableProduct=IDLB-QUDL42-UNI2L-1PP

 

Maybe I'm missing something on the configuration, can anyone of you help me?

Regards

[Gringosat]

I've tried for several hours any kind of configuration (USALS with GotoX, go to pos, etc) but the channel doesn't show the image when going from one sat to other.

If using Motor setup GotoX feature the rotor goes correctly to the destination sat and show the image.

I start to think that Unicable and USALS are not compatible in the channel selection...

 

More, when the dish should be moving i can see the sat image in the top left corner with seconds before to end. Seconds are going in negative, is that normal?

I think my extra sat parameters are not used because is display 1.5° as horizontal turning speed instead that my vale 1.8°/sec. Why? Is that value the preset?

Edited by Gringosat, 27 March 2018 - 14:25.

[Huevos]

Your setup makes no sense. A Unicable switch is for sharing fixed LNBs between multiple tuners/users. A motorised dish is not for sharing.

[Erik Slagter]

Maybe he wants to turn between, say three positions, one at a time, and then record all of the services at the same time, with e.g. an FBC tuner complex. I can hardly imagine that being useful, but hey, who knows...

[Rob van der Does]

Your setup makes no sense. A Unicable switch is for sharing fixed LNBs between multiple tuners/users. A motorised dish is not for sharing.

A motorised LNB can be looped through as well; I have had that for quite some time.
And don't say it's a limited setup; of course it is (as every loop-through is), but the limitations depend on the viewing habits.

[Gringosat]

Well, for the moment my configuration is quite simple:

 

Dish with Unicable LNB (Inverto IDLB-QUDL42-UNI2L-1PP) -> Rotor Stab HH100 -> ZGemma H5

 

I put an unicable LNB so i can upgrade my configuration in the future.

As Erik Slagter said, my idea for the future is to have one receiver that send USALS commands and move the antenna and a second receiver that simply use a second unicable channel for viewing and recording.

 

Anyway, I've retried yesterday some other configuration but it's definitively not working (no way to move the antenna in the channel selection mode).

The only way to move the antenna is sending GotoX commands in the Motor setup area :-(

[Huevos]

A stupid plan indeed because the second receiver has no idea where the dish is pointed.

[Erik Slagter]

Unless you also mark it as "rotor" connection and then the two receiver can go fighting about what position to turn to

[Rob van der Does]

Not necessarily. If you loop the connection through from an other STB it will basically work.
When STB1 is active (for live-TV or recordings) it'll be the boss over the position. As soon as STB1 is in standby STB2 can steer the motor.
Obviously there is no way for STB2 to know when STB1 is in standby (or active, but looking at the same satellite as STB2).

[Gringosat]

Anyway, that will be the future and I'm not gonna discuss about it before to put in practise.

 

I just wanna know why now my rotor with an unicable lnb commanded by my decoder using USALS protocol is not working on channel selection but only inside Motor setup.

None using OpenPLi have the same configuration with the same issues?

Can be possible to fix it?

 

I'm available to test and give you all the feedback logs you need.

[Erik Slagter]

There are very few rotor users left, afaik in the team we only have one.

[Rob van der Does]

I just wanna know why now my rotor with an unicable lnb commanded by my decoder using USALS protocol is not working on channel selection but only inside Motor setup.

I had that setup until one or two years ago, and it always worked.

[Huevos]

There are very few rotor users left, afaik in the team we only have one.

Seriously? So I have more motors in my personal setup than the whole PLi team?

[WanWizard]

Appearently.

[Huevos]

Here are my motorised dishes. Also have WF90 with 16 LNBs.

 

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[WanWizard]

WoW.

 

The community here would really go apeshit if I'd put that on my balcony.

[Gringosat]

Just forgot to say I'm using Vhannibal settings and openpli-6.1-release-h5-20180106.

Edited by Gringosat, 29 March 2018 - 15:48.

[Erik Slagter]

Please note that I don't have the space in my garden to put all of these in, BUT I do have a Wavefrontier T90 (yep, the big one) with 8 LNB's on it, and using SCR, all 8 positions can be viewed simultanuously on all receivers in the house. That's enough for me. No rotor-related trouble.

[Huevos]

Please note that I don't have the space in my garden to put all of these in, BUT I do have a Wavefrontier T90 (yep, the big one) with 8 LNB's on it, and using SCR, all 8 positions can be viewed simultanuously on all receivers in the house. That's enough for me. No rotor-related trouble.

Got 16 LNBs on mine. Fast zapping is great. Motor fills in the gaps. And 180 cm motorised is for C-band.

 

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[Gringosat]

Why the turning speed display during the channel selection (near sat icon) is different that i've set?

 

Here is what i've set in config:

 

config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.65.turningspeedH=1.8
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.65.turningspeedV=1.2

 

Here is what is display:

 

1.5 for H channels

1.0 for V channels

 

I think this is a bug!!!