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Re: VU Solo 4k support #241 WanWizard

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Posted 8 December 2015 - 14:06

The problem is only with plugins that contain binaries. Plugins in the "all" feed that contain only python code should also work on th Solo 4K. But afaik there are no binary plugins in the "all" feed.

 

Plugins that access the hardware directly should be avoided anyway. We tried to introduce a hardware abstraction layer to avoid this problem, but since a lot of the plugins are antiques, none of the other image teams can be bothered to have proper hardware abstraction, and most plugin authors can't be bothered about anything, this issue is only going to get worse with the 4K.


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Re: VU Solo 4k support #242 Huevos

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Posted 8 December 2015 - 23:37

The problem is [...]  none of the other image teams can be bothered to have proper hardware abstraction

Which teams?



Re: VU Solo 4k support #243 WanWizard

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Posted 9 December 2015 - 01:44

You probably know better that me, it was the main point of difference between the PLi team and OE-A. But we had the same discussion with others too, for example OpenWebIf.

 

Code should not be littered with "if-this-box-then", code should not have to check for proc values, or access the hardware directly, etc. There should be abstraction and separation of duties, It's a fundamental software architectural principe. Which is why we fought to introduce the manufacturer BSP's, and which we strongly believe all hardware dependencies should be part of that BSP.

 

For example, a BSP should export transcoding as a feature. So the code could just check if the feature is there or not, regardless of the box. If there are more than one way to transcode, the BSP should contain the abstraction layer, so Enigma and friends have a single API to talk to.

 

Unfortunately, since this a very fundamental principle, it only works if everyone implements it. If we do it alone, we loose too much compatibility.

 

So I strongly feel this issue is preventing any real innovation, for all of us. Instead of all working towards a common goal, there is way to much reinventing of wheels...


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Re: VU Solo 4k support #244 blzr

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Posted 10 December 2015 - 13:27

looks that we'll have a reason to slowly get back to the actual topic of this thread, FWIW ;)

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Re: VU Solo 4k support #245 Rob van der Does

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Posted 10 December 2015 - 13:39

Well, that link shows the 4k has been added Nov 2nd.



Re: VU Solo 4k support #246 Erik Slagter

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Posted 10 December 2015 - 13:41

Still it was only available today.

That's what you get from merging and cherry picking. The original commit's date (and author) remain. It says nothing about availability.


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Re: VU Solo 4k support #247 mamamia

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 00:40

Please explain for the honkytonks. Does that commit mean that vu supplied what you need (bsp layer) in order to support Solo 4K in Openpli in the future? Thank you!

Edited by mamamia, 11 December 2015 - 00:44.


Re: VU Solo 4k support #248 Erik Slagter

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 11:16

It means the first step in the process of support.

 

Today we reached the second step: the BSP now builds okay, unfortunately that means the crossepg plugin can't be built anymore.

 

Now we're going to do some QA tests internally and only when we think the outcome is satisfactory, the images will start building.


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Re: VU Solo 4k support #249 athoik

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 11:20

unfortunately that means the crossepg plugin can't be built anymore.


Actually every closed source binary fom mipsel has the same problem!

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Re: VU Solo 4k support #250 DaMacFunkin

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 14:14

Oh bugger...

Re: VU Solo 4k support #251 Erik Slagter

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 15:38

unfortunately that means the crossepg plugin can't be built anymore.


Actually every closed source binary fom mipsel has the same problem!

Yes, but only crossepg gets built from source and breaks the build that way.

It may very well be that certain plugins just won't on the solo4k, but that's less serious because they don't break the build.

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Re: VU Solo 4k support #252 Erik Slagter

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 15:39

Oh bugger...

Address the authors of crossepg... ;)

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Re: VU Solo 4k support #253 Tony il Capo

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 17:14

Would be that difficult to have an embedded OpenTV EPG downloader?

Don't BlackHole images have one already?


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Re: VU Solo 4k support #254 MiLo

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 18:34

I think part of crossEPG is a mipsel blob. There's a bit of code, but as I recall, but the blob makes it incompatible.

 

Not a problem, it's just a third-party plugin.


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Re: VU Solo 4k support #255 Erik Slagter

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 18:42

I think part of crossEPG is a mipsel blob. There's a bit of code, but as I recall, but the blob makes it incompatible.

 

Not a problem, it's just a third-party plugin.

The blob is not arm, simple as that ;)

 

It's a e2openplugins plugin, that IS the problem. IMHO no plugins with binary blobs should be in e2openplugins. Anyway, it's disabled now.


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Re: VU Solo 4k support #256 littlesat

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 19:31

(3rd) party plugins  with binaries will be a bit more difficult.... because VU+4K is on ARM.


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Re: VU Solo 4k support #257 Huevos

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 19:31

OE-A version of CrossEPG. OpenTV download works fine on Solo4K.

Re: VU Solo 4k support #258 Huevos

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 19:36

(3rd) party plugins  with binaries will be a bit more difficult.... because VU+4K is on ARM.

Great. So now the only OpenTV capable downloader has now been removed from OpenPLi.

Re: VU Solo 4k support #259 pop_eye

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 19:38

The plugin can get built from https://github.com/E...plugin-CrossEPG

 

Where is the big frustration coming from ?



Re: VU Solo 4k support #260 WanWizard

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 19:43

Only binaries I can see in the repo are the MHW2 readers, so they won't work. For the rest it looks like source is available.


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