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Re: Language assistance requested... #361 littlesat

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 07:04

Yep and then vkey pngs were in skin default so we created the logic that you can replace default pictures via a skin-_default subdir in your skin so no changes to the code are required. Now it is a have to each skin has the pngs.... :( they should be in the skin_default folder...

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Re: Language assistance requested... #362 zeros

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 07:19

But at what resolution do these buttons, the skin.xml depends on it. Currently, the skins PLi-HD, PLi-HD1 and PLi-HD2 uses buttons with resolution 45x45 pixels.

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Re: Language assistance requested... #363 IanSav

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 09:39

Hi Zeros,

 

 

If it plays a role, present 'PLi-HD' Skin it has buttons for size 45x45, what found in the IanSav folder '720'.
However, there are not all the necessary icons in this folder. You can find them in folder '1080'.
I was comparing what files are missing from the folder '720'.
Looking at the Python code:
-vkey_bg.png
vkey_red.png
vkey_green.png
vkey_yellow.png
vkey_blue.png
-vkey_sel.png
vkey_backspace.png
vkey_enter.png
vkey_first.png
vkey_last.png
-vkey_left.png
-vkey_right.png
vkey_shift0.png
vkey_shift1.png
vkey_shift2.png
vkey_shift3.png
vkey_space.png
vkey_space_alt.png
- == png file is missing on folder '720'
Just if these png files all exists on buttons file folder, you will not get GSOD
It was pretty hard to figure it out for me.
On the other hand, perhaps I need to use the files from folder '1080'?
In this case things are in place but buttons are smaller.
So I think at the moment is needed to add missing png buttons files to PLi-HD; PLi-HD1 and PLi-HD2:
vkey_bg.png
vkey_sel.png
vkey_left.png
vkey_right.png
and change the file skin.xml on their folder PLi-HD; PLi-HD1 and PLi-HD2.
Then it would be fine. Or would you like to place these buttons in a shared folder so there is no duplication? I understand that littlesat wants to do that if I get it right?

 

 

Please don't mix the images for the different resolutions.  The quality of the display will be compromised.  I have attached a full set of images for bot 1280 x 70 and 1920 x 1080 skins to this post.

 

Regards,

Ian.

 

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Re: Language assistance requested... #364 IanSav

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 09:50

Hi Littlesat, Zeros and others interested in skin issues,
 
Let's not panic about skin differences between the images and how things were done in the past.  Now we have 720 and 1080 skins which are both popular. 2160 skins will probably start appearing soon.  We should also plan for 4320 skins (when 8K becomes popular).  What we have now is not working and will only get more problematic.  We need a plan and solution that works for what we have now and will work with what we can expect in the reasonable future.

 

I think we should look at the problem, discuss the options and come up with a workable solution that can be used by all images.  It may be appropriate to consider some level of fall back compatibility for those images that are straggling behind.

 

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Re: Language assistance requested... #365 zeros

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 10:12

One suggestion (not tested yet with my box).
I would suggest a little change the button vkey_bg.png
I'll add a sample.
The reason is the absence of the lower and the right edge. Isn't that supposed to be there?

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Re: Language assistance requested... #366 IanSav

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 10:35

Hi Zeros,

 

The right and bottom edges are not present in the original artwork.  I suspect that if you add these images then the joins between the buttons will become too dramatic.  If there is popular opinion to change the defaults I will go with the popular vote.

 

If you want a frame around the grid why not draw a box around it or else use your own images in your custom skin?

 

Regards,

Ian.



Re: Language assistance requested... #367 zeros

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 10:50

Yes, I agree, the box around it would be better.

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Re: Language assistance requested... #368 littlesat

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 12:58

To get the border around equal thick as the 'crosses' in between we only need to fill in two sides.... So a box arround is not better...


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Re: Language assistance requested... #369 IanSav

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 13:06

Hi Littlesat,

 

To get the border around equal thick as the 'crosses' in between we only need to fill in two sides.... So a box arround is not better...

 

This is a visual and personal skin matter.  There is no right or wrong.  ;)

 

Regards,

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 19:52

The update is now 100% OK and there. I am very pleased with it. No Gsod, the boundary, however, is not needed, everything is OK. Updated directly from Dmm updated test feed, I'll add the screenshot. Thanks to all involved!

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Re: Language assistance requested... #371 Pr2

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 20:21

Hi,

 

About the french keyboard I think it is better to assign the red rounded key to SHIFT like it is in real life. This empty symbol will be confusing.

I know that we will then have 3 shift keys but it will be better understandable I think.

 

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Re: Language assistance requested... #372 IanSav

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 03:42

Hi Pr2,

 

About the french keyboard I think it is better to assign the red rounded key to SHIFT like it is in real life. This empty symbol will be confusing.

I know that we will then have 3 shift keys but it will be better understandable I think.

 

attachicon.gifCapture d’écran 2018-08-22 à 21.00.35.png

 

I don't understand what you are requesting.  The colour red is associated with the exit function.  It can't be used as a shift key.  I can't have different functions for the different languages.  Can you please explain what you are suggesting if I have misunderstood your point.

 

Regards,

Ian.



Re: Language assistance requested... #373 IanSav

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 03:44

Hi Zeros,

 

Thank you for your supportive feedback.

 

Regards,

Ian.



Re: Language assistance requested... #374 Adga

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 06:44

Hello
Is it possible to add the Lithuanian language?

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Re: Language assistance requested... #375 IanSav

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 07:09

Hi Adga,

 

Hello

Is it possible to add the Lithuanian language?

 

Yes.  Absolutely.  Can you help me to get the keymap layout correct?

 

Regards,

Ian.



Re: Language assistance requested... #376 Adga

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 08:15

Hi Adga,

 

Hello

Is it possible to add the Lithuanian language?

 

Yes.  Absolutely.  Can you help me to get the keymap layout correct?

 

Regards,

Ian.

 

 

 

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Re: Language assistance requested... #377 Adga

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 08:21

 

Hi Adga,

 

Hello

Is it possible to add the Lithuanian language?

 

Yes.  Absolutely.  Can you help me to get the keymap layout correct?

 

Regards,

Ian.

 

 http://lt.loderi.com...keyboard-online

 

/lithuanian-virtual-keyboard-online


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Re: Language assistance requested... #378 IanSav

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 08:54

Hi Adga,

 

The version I found on the Internet was a little different.  ( http://ascii-table.c...eyboard.php/456 ) I have already coded it before I saw your post.  When my receiver finishes a recording I will generate images of the version I created for your review.  If it is acceptable then good, if not I will rework it to match what you posted.

 

Regards,

Ian.



Re: Language assistance requested... #379 Pr2

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 10:54

Hi Pr2,

 

About the french keyboard I think it is better to assign the red rounded key to SHIFT like it is in real life. This empty symbol will be confusing.

I know that we will then have 3 shift keys but it will be better understandable I think.

 

attachicon.gifCapture d’écran 2018-08-22 à 21.00.35.png

 

I don't understand what you are requesting.  The colour red is associated with the exit function.  It can't be used as a shift key.  I can't have different functions for the different languages.  Can you please explain what you are suggesting if I have misunderstood your point.

 

Regards,

Ian.

 

Please open the picture and watch it, there is a big red circle that I have added on the screenshot around a key that needs to be turned into a Shift key.


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Re: Language assistance requested... #380 Adga

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 11:24

Hi Adga,

 

The version I found on the Internet was a little different.  ( http://ascii-table.c...eyboard.php/456 ) I have already coded it before I saw your post.  When my receiver finishes a recording I will generate images of the version I created for your review.  If it is acceptable then good, if not I will rework it to match what you posted.

 

Regards,

Ian.

 

My published version is correct (lithuanian baltic)  :)

P.S. The version you submitted is not good


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