Edited by Taapat, 6 September 2018 - 14:02.
Language assistance requested...
Re: Language assistance requested... #701
Posted 6 September 2018 - 14:01
Re: Language assistance requested... #702
Posted 6 September 2018 - 15:47
@Ian,
yes, it is ok, but added chars with "umlaut" (äëïöüÄËÏÖÜ) is unnecessary. I know, that it was in this example, but this chars are not in CZ alphabet and no one word exist in CZ with umlaut. It was just adding lat1 chars for more universal sms keyboards...
Our full alphabet is here (if it will be displayable for you). No umlaut.
note: ch is standalone char in alphabet, but in ascii tables not exist (on keyboards not exist too), is writed as c and h
Btw - here is freq. characteristic of our chars
Re: Language assistance requested... #703
Posted 6 September 2018 - 16:48
Hi Taapat,
That document appears to want to change the order of the glyphs so that all lowercase letters come before the number. The English Latin characters come first followed by the locale characters then the digit. That is what I was offered but you objected!
The draft is a request to change the standard but I don't think it was accepted. Still I think the proposed standard is better and what I originally offered.
As per your previous agreement I have updated Latvian to the format specified in the standards document and adjusted to the proposed amendment. This matches your requests from the previous posts.
Regards,
Ian.
Re: Language assistance requested... #704
Posted 6 September 2018 - 17:00
Hi All,
This is the latest test version of NumericalTextInput.py that has the characters for all languages adjusted into lowercase, digit, uppercase order. The sequence of the lowercase and uppercase characters is as listed in the ETSI ES 202 130 V2.1.2 document.
I hope I have corrected Czech as directed by Ims and Dutch as directed by Rob. I have also added Persian. I hope that Persian Prince can tell me if my efforts are acceptable.
Hopefully these changes are acceptable and the changes can be submitted into the repository.
Regards,
Ian.
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Re: Language assistance requested... #705
Posted 6 September 2018 - 17:08
Hi All,
Please do NOT use the version of NumericalTextInput.py in my last post. There is a debugging line that locked that version to Dutch. (That was the last language I tested.)
This version will correctly switch to the appropriate locale.
Regards,
Ian.
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Re: Language assistance requested... #706
Posted 6 September 2018 - 17:21
Hi Ian,
pls, try next version :-)
Allmost all umlauts are under Czech removed - it is ok, but still are there:öÖ under key 9
But in this version you moved numbers to end of lowercases, but it must be after "basic" (english) chars => example:
abc2áčABCÁČ
def3ďéěDEFĎÉĚ
ghi4íGHIÍ
...
Re: Language assistance requested... #707
Posted 6 September 2018 - 18:02
Hi Ims,
pls, try next version :-)
Allmost all umlauts are under Czech removed - it is ok, but still are there:öÖ under key 9
But in this version you moved numbers to end of lowercases, but it must be after "basic" (english) chars => example:
abc2áčABCÁČ
def3ďéěDEFĎÉĚ
ghi4íGHIÍ
...
The extra characters have now been properly removed.
The lowercase, digit, uppercase is was what Taapat was demanding. In the document he linked (http://www.likit.lt/...i_comments.html) there is a draft amendment to ETSI ES 202 130 that says that the numbers *should* be moved between the lowercase and uppercase letters.
Are you willing to accept this proposed revision of the standard for the Czech layout?
Regards,
Ian.
Re: Language assistance requested... #708
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Re: Language assistance requested... #712
Posted 6 September 2018 - 18:49
@IanSav I want to repeat again. I am talking only about the Latvian layout.
You can see that the document in my link refers to the Lithuanian layout, the same is with the Latvian layout. But I do not want to say that in the same way changes need to be made in all languages, such as Czech.
Document indicates that there are differences between what all the time is used de facto and between what is specified in the standard.
In Latvian de facto is used the alphabetical layout "aābcč2AĀBCČ".
According to ETSI, EU 202 130 should be "abc2āčABCĀČ".
Re: Language assistance requested... #713
Re: Language assistance requested... #714
Posted 6 September 2018 - 18:57
Hi Taapat,
@IanSav I want to repeat again. I am talking only about the Latvian layout.
You can see that the document in my link refers to the Lithuanian layout, the same is with the Latvian layout. But I do not want to say that in the same way changes need to be made in all languages, such as Czech.
Document indicates that there are differences between what all the time is used de facto and between what is specified in the standard.
In Latvian de facto is used the alphabetical layout "aābcč2AĀBCČ".
According to ETSI, EU 202 130 should be "abc2āčABCĀČ".
As per your request and agreement I used ETSI, EU 202 130 with the amended format as per the proposed update document you posted. I don't know what is wrong now. The mixed English and local characters is not standard in EITHER document. The difference is simply where the digit should be placed.
Regards,
Ian.
Edited by IanSav, 6 September 2018 - 18:58.
Re: Language assistance requested... #715
Posted 6 September 2018 - 18:57
I hope you don't change these things at Estonian, or should I worry and check? For now Estonian is OK and I'd like it to remain so. Since that is the case, I assume I don't have to check your new files?
Another thing, it would be nice if you could add to documentation an examples to a developer, how he/she can call the keyboard in his plugins. It's just a thought, because the documentation you've written is good.
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Re: Language assistance requested... #716
Posted 6 September 2018 - 19:04
Hi Zeros,
I am so turned around trying to make everyone happy that I think you should check that I haven't broken Estonian.
The way that NumericalTextInput is called can be very different. Compare how the NumericalTextInput is used from config.py and how it is called from MovieSelection.py. The former uses the UI while the latter does not! There is no one way to call it or use it. The way it is called or used depends on what you are trying to achieve.
If you would like any assistance in using NumericalTextInput in your code please ask and I will try to help.
Regards,
Ian.
Re: Language assistance requested... #717
Posted 6 September 2018 - 21:02
Re: Language assistance requested... #718
Posted 7 September 2018 - 06:17
Hi Taapat,
Here is the latest version of NumericalTextInput with Latvian re-sequenced in contradiction to the standards but as requested. If there are any complaints about the Latvian sequence I will revert to the documented standard.
Regards,
Ian.
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Edited by IanSav, 7 September 2018 - 06:17.
Re: Language assistance requested... #719
Posted 7 September 2018 - 06:51
Thx.
Here is corrected Latvian layot:
(None, None, None), (None, None, None), (u"a\u0101bc\u010D2A\u0100BC\u010C", u"A\u0100BC\u010C2", u"a\u0101bc\u010D2"), (u"de\u0113f3DE\u0112F", u"DE\u0112F3", u"de\u0113f3"), (u"g\u0123hi\u012B4G\u0122HI\u012A", u"G\u0122HI\u012A4", u"g\u0123hi\u012B4"), (u"jk\u0137l\u013C5JK\u0136L\u013B", u"JK\u0136L\u013B5", u"jk\u0137l\u013C5"), (u"mn\u0146o6MN\u0145O", u"MN\u0145O6", u"mn\u0146o6"), (u"prs\u01617qPRS\u0160Q", u"PRS\u01607Q", u"prs\u01617q"), (u"tu\u016Bv8TU\u016AV", u"TU\u016AV8", u"tu\u016Bv8"), (u"z\u017E9wxyWXYZ\u017D", u"Z\u017D9WXY", u"z\u017E9wxy")
I remove the letters ō and ŗ that are not in the Latvian alphabet (they were not there before).
Re: Language assistance requested... #720
Posted 7 September 2018 - 07:00
Hi Taapat,
Your changes significantly diverge from ALL the documented standards. I suspect that this layout is going to annoy some people. Given that this change is likely to only affect your fellow countrymen, and I have wasted enough time on this one issue, I am going to merge your changes and move on. If there are ANY complaints or issues then I will revert to the documented standards.
Regards,
Ian.
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