WanWizard

Reken er maar niet op dat DMM en Pli elkaar gaan vinden.

Al was het alleen maar omdat de boel niet voor niks closed-source gegaan is. Bovendien staat me een discussie bij over licenties van de door DMM gebruikte browser, dus die open source gooien gaat al niet.

De grote vraag gaat dus zijn: blijven de gebruikers kiezen voor de veel te dure en brakke DMM hardware met de closed-source image, of kiezen ze voor een ander merk, die beter betaalbaar is en al die features al lang heeft (en soms beter).

Persoonlijk maakt het mij allemaal niet uit, hier is DMM al een tijdje de deur uit. Ze hebben in mijn optiek de boot gemist door niet te zorgen voor hardware die onderscheidend is, en die daardoor voor klantenbinding en nieuwe klanten zorgt.

Is is very simple: OpenPLI is licenced under GPL.

Which means you can use the source as you please, as long as you publish it again. If you make modifications, you are required to publish the modifications.

You are not allowed to use code of which OpenPLi has the copyright as original author in your own product, and you are not allowed to re-use the code in software that is not GPL.

The license explicitly forbids this, so both teams that use OpenPLi as a basis, modify it and don't publish those changes, and companies that take solutions from the OpenPLi code to incorporate those in closed source are in violation of the license agreement. And in the second case they are also in violation of copyright laws, which means they are "thiefs" of the code we have the copyright of.

That (those odd "underscore" type lines) usually indicates the title is multi line, what you see there is the top (or bottom) row of pixels of the second line.

Something that should be solved in Enigma, not in the EPG data...

Wanwizard had het in een ander topic erover dat DMM code overneemt uit openpli. Is dat nu een gerucht of feit?

Dat is een vermoeden, afgaande op de fixes die wij introduceren (op zaken die al lang mis zitten), en die dan weken later spontaan daar ook gefixt zijn. Maar aangezien 't closed source is blijft het bij een vermoeden.

Laat openpli in dat geval nog zijn tandeloze mond zien (GPL) of is het "ons" allemaal wel croky?

En dus valt er weinig actie te ondernemen.

Er gaat gewoon een moment komen dat we zo ver af gaan wijken dat gebruikers een keuze moeten gaan maken voor een van de twee. En dan zullen we zien wat er nog van DMM over blijft...

I can confirm that installing Oscam on an Enigma1 box (a DM7000 in my case) is not a problem.[list]
[*]Put the oscam binary in /var/bin, and do a chmod 775 to make it executable.
[*]In /var/etc/plimgr/cams, create a file called 'oscam', and add the version number in it (exact value is not relevant)
[*]In /var/etc/plimgr/scripts, create a file called 'oscam', and put in it:

#!/bin/sh
CAMNAME4="oscam"
case "$1" in
	start)
		echo "[SCRIPT] $1: Starting $CAMNAME4"
		/var/bin/oscam -b &
		;;
	stop)
		echo "[SCRIPT] $1: Stopping $CAMNAME4"
		# oscam does not always seems to stop
		usleep 100000
		pids=`pidof oscam`
		if [ -n "$pids" ] ; then
			kill -9 $pids > /dev/null 2>&1
		fi
		;;
	*)
		$0 stop
		exit 1
		;;
esac

exit 0

[*]Configure oscam as documentated
[*]Select oscam as your standard cardserver instead of CCcam
[/list]
I use this box as my internal personal card server, so I can't comment on the DVBAPI part you need to watch locally.

De boardmakers niet ("Wij zien dit niet als een probleem, de standaard code cached altijd"). Maar ik wel, en dus bij deze.

Same chipset as the Amiko Alien and the Sparkbox.

Do not reboot the box the way you reboot it.

If you restart Enigma or the box from the menu, the EPG will be saved first, and re-read after Enigma restarts...

To end the discussions whether or not a particular external device works or not, I've added a wiki page to create a central log of working devices.

Everyone with a forum account can edit this page when they are logged in. Do you have a USB stick, DVD drive, external disk, WLAN stick, etc, please add them here: http://openpli.org/w...externaldevices !

The discussion about clones is not relevant.

We don't have those boxes, nor the desire to have them.

We don't control the changes that have been made to the OpenPLi source to have it run on such a box. And we don't have any contact with the driver developers so we can act if we find something wrong.

As with any piece of Open Source software, anyone is entitled to fork our repositories and release "their" version. A lot of images are based on OpenPLi these days. We don't have a problem with that, on the contrary, we support this. But all these images have their own identity, and support their own user base.

What we absolutely do NOT agree with, is someone releasing the result of this fork as an official OpenPLi image, and sending the users of his fork to our forum for support!

We have more than enough experience with unsupported boxes, and time and time again, reported issues turn out to be driver or hardware inconsistencies. We DO NOT want to waste our time investigating those reports, we prefer to spend that time developing features for the users of our images.

Install the XMLTV importer from the plugins list.

After installation you'll find it under menu/plugins and under the blue button.

Start it, configure it, press the sources button (don't know the color, I thought blue), select SKY UK, save your selection, press Yellow to start a manual import, and press Green to save your settings.

Info is off by one hour. Best thing to do is to erase the epg data tonight, so tommorow morning's import will fix things...

I saw a similar report from a 5620 owner in the dutch section yesterday so perhaps it's an image issue. Unfortunately, nobody in the team has a working E1 box anymore, which makes testing difficult.

For a 7000, DreamUp is the only alternative.

Gemiddeld zitten wij daar ook wel aan.

Het PLi team bestaat sinds 2004, dus we zijn al even bezig. En voorlopig niet van plan om op te houden, in tegendeel, ik heb de laatste maand, nu we "los" zijn dan DMM, meer development gezien dan in de twee jaar daarvoor.

You can not.

Well, you probably can, but chances are you'll brick your box as our images contain drivers made by DMM, and they will refuse to run on clone hardware.

We do not support clone hardware, anything you do it at your own risk.